Listen – Misfit Stars

April 1, 2020March 31, 2020

“I have an overactive imagination. It’s part of the job description.”

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We’re still working on finding a balance between self-care and being there for other people. It continues to be a work in progress. Also, shopping is fraught.

Please let us know in the private Facebook group how you’re doing. We’d love to check in. ❤️

Because of the pandemic, we will be unable to go on our annual summer house concert tour this year. This represents a loss of about 75% of our yearly income. If you have a stable income, please visit https://misfitstars.com/join to make a recurring monthly contribution toward our continued well-being, or https://misfitstars.com/levelup to increase your monthly support amount. Thank you so much for your help through this time; we literally couldn’t do this without you. ❤️

March 25, 2020March 24, 2020

“Fine, in pandemic-adjusted terms.”

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We’re just barely into this world-historical event, and it’s already clear that everything is going to change. Which gives us each opportunities to reevaluate our priorities – both in our personal lives and in our society writ large. That’s what we’re talking about this week; come join us, and please share your thoughts in the private group.

March 18, 2020March 18, 2020

“You can’t gaslight a pandemic.”

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Holy hell; this last week has been a thousand years long. The reality of what we’re looking at as a country and as a planet is overwhelming and hard to take onboard. That’s what we’re talking about this episode. It may be what we’re talking about for a long time to come. Come take some comfort with us, dear friends. Also, CALL YOUR CONGRESSPEOPLE. ❤️

March 11, 2020March 10, 2020

“Being a better person is sexy.”

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Seems like a good week to talk about feminism. Come join us.

March 4, 2020March 3, 2020

“You have the freedom to just scroll on by.”

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So that low-level tension we were talking about last week? Well, it hasn’t dissipated. And indeed it seems to be ratcheting up! It’s becoming increasingly apparent to both of us that keeping our mental wellness as healthy as it can be is going to require focused, intentional effort. And so we thought we’d share our ideas with you. Please let us know what you think; we’d love to hear your strategies also.

February 26, 2020February 26, 2020

“If you take the ‘I’ out of emergencies, you get emergences.”

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Anyone else feeling just a little ambient low-level tension? Maybe more than a little? We’re living through some uncertain times at the moment. And the Democratic primary is absolutely not helping. We seem to be in the middle of an extended existential election-year freakout, and it’s coming from all sides.

So, what can we do to deal with our feelings of generalized discomfort? We thought it worth talking through. Hopefully you’ll get some value from it.

February 19, 2020February 19, 2020

“I didn’t get murdered on today’s podcast. And that’s something!”

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None of us stays the same. We couldn’t if we wanted to, and, also, we shouldn’t want to! The moment we believe that the best version of ourselves isn’t still ahead of us is the moment we start to die inside.

Given this, it’s probably a good idea to take a look, every so often, at the ways in which we’re changing. Because we should ideally be changing in a positive direction, right? So today’s Listener Topic, from Scott S., felt like a perhaps-overdue invitation to do a little digging.

Also, Shannon’s completely pissed off this week. And we’ll dig into that too.

February 12, 2020February 11, 2020

“A hand that is open to let something go is also open to receive something good.”

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Control issues are at the heart of so much personal pain. And, so often, they’re intertwined with a sense of powerlessness. In a time when the news can make us feel a renewed sense of powerlessness with each passing day, it felt apropos to talk about where our feelings of powerlessness are rooted, and to explore how we can transform them into a practical sense of empowerment.

We also talk for a bit about sobriety. It’s related.

February 5, 2020February 4, 2020

“It’s not as good as it could be. But it’s good.”

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Can we be honest about something? We love our parents. But they’re on the opposite side of a deep political chasm from where we’re at. We know this is a not-uncommon situation in this age. And it’s painful! In this episode, Jamie takes a deep dive into the processing – and grieving – that he’s been doing around this aspect of his relationship with his parents.

January 29, 2020January 27, 2020

“What’s the right thing to do? Let’s do that.”

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The death of someone famous often leads to a sort of collective cultural sadness. Which can be odd, if you think about it, when the person’s life really didn’t intersect with or affect yours at all! What’s that all about? Apropos of Kobe Bryant’s sudden passing, Shannon has thoughts, and we explore them in the first half of the episode.

And then, in the second half … buckle up, because we’re talking politics! Specifically, Democratic primary politics. Shannon’s all in for Elizabeth Warren, and one of our Misfit Stars asked her recently to expound on why, and so she does. (Jamie’s all in for Liz too, btw. Listen to learn why!)

January 22, 2020February 26, 2020

“The bond we have is strong enough to get us through.”

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EXCITING NEWS: we’ve totally revamped the Misfit Stars support structure! So, what does this mean for you? Well, if you’re a supporting member of Misfit Stars, it means that you’re going to be getting FREE STUFF IN THE MAIL. Like, we’re going to mail free stuff TO YOUR HOUSE! Sticker sheets, tee shirts, and the BRAND NEW MISFIT STARS MUG are going to be coming to your door. It’s like Christmas in January!

And if you’re not a supporting member of Misfit Stars … now would be a great time to become one. $10 is now the tee-shirt level; at $20 you get a tee shirt AND A MUG; it’s an impossible bounty.

Also, we talk in this episode about how we work through potentially fraught disagreements as a couple. It’s a good conversation. Thanks as always for joining us!

January 15, 2020January 15, 2020

“Thank god we have music.”

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We spent the last week completely overwhelmed by a DIY kitchen remodeling project. We did a good job, we think … but it’s literally all we did! With one exception: we listened to music while we worked. So much music. And so we thought that we’d do something a little different this week and walk you through the records that we’ve been listening to, and play you songs off of each of them, and talk about what makes them compelling to us!

We made a Spotify playlist of all the songs in the episode … it’s here: https://open.spotify.com/user/121639430/playlist/1jHBiRx1uGk06ZhGlZIink?si=EgzL3o_EReOFXkwDZ_06dg

A list of the songs in this episode is below. If you like the music, support the artists; that’s how you ensure that artists can keep making art that you like.

Fontaines D.C. – Liberty Belle
Dears – Thrones
Sleaford Mods – Moptop
The Murder Capital – Don’t Cling to Life
Crows – Chain of Being
David Bowie – Boys Keep Swinging
Murray Lightburn – Motherfuckers
Have a Nice Life – Science Beat

January 8, 2020January 7, 2020

“Our time at the hardware store.”

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We’re back! Our podcast holiday was rejuvenating and much needed. But we did very much miss talking things through with each other and with you. So we’re jumping right back in the deep end with this first episode of 2020.

We had sort of an epiphany over New Year’s about our relationship. We think it’s going to be a game-changer for us, and we’re excited to share it with you. Please post in the private Misfit Stars group or message us to let us know your thoughts!

December 18, 2019December 16, 2019

“Alexa, stop conspiring.”

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It’s the most wonderful but also fraught time of the year! The ambient stress level is elevated, here as everywhere. Holidays are stressful. And if you’re in America, like we are, there’s the added weight of the impeachment proceedings. We didn’t intend to talk about the impeachment proceedings! But sometimes things just happen. Between that and reflecting on our last week, we’re done for the year. We’re taking the next two weeks off for the holidays – we’ll be back on Wednesday, January 8th. In the meantime, connect with us in the Facebook group or anywhere else online that works for you. We hope you have a lovely holiday season!

December 11, 2019December 10, 2019

“Break glass in case of emergency.”

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We know that we present to the world as being generally cheerful; well-balanced and even-keeled. So it came as as much of a surprise to us as it surely will to you that Jamie had a fairly serious depressive episode over this last week! The clouds lifted yesterday, thank god. But it gave us a lot to talk about. We cover a lot of ground in this episode; if any of it resonates with you, we’d love to hear about it. And if anyone reading this is dealing with mental wellness issues, please feel free to reach out. We’re always happy to listen. Hang in there. ❤️

December 4, 2019December 3, 2019

“There’s a real fine line between Buddhism and Sisyphean nihilism.”

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You know how sometimes it can feel vulnerable and scary to open your heart to new people? We had some of that come up this last week. And then we talk through a Listener Topic from Jen O., about the lenses through which we see the world. Naturally we end up talking about religion. Because how could that not go there.

November 27, 2019November 27, 2019

“It’s the Happy Fun Ball of power tools!”

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It’s a car episode! We haven’t had one of those in a hot minute. We recorded this driving through Northern California, on the way to spend some time with Shannon’s mom and some dear friends. We’ve had an unbelievably tiring week – but very productive! We talk about that, and also a lot about Depeche Mode, who were really the original Misfit Stars.

November 20, 2019November 19, 2019

“Dang … that stupid thing she said is actually kinda smart!”

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It’s our one-year podcast anniversary! 🎉 We’ve learned a lot over the last year of doing this; we talk through what that feels like for each of us. Plus, being us, we detour into a healthy dose of music nerding. Thanks for being with us on this journey; we appreciate each and every one of you very much. ❤️

November 13, 2019November 12, 2019

“We’re putting this on the internet; surely someone will correct us.”

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Shannon went to see Anita Hill speak this week! So naturally we spent most of this podcast talking about sexism. We feel like we should be further along at this point in our evolution as a species. Progress can be maddeningly slow sometimes.

November 6, 2019November 5, 2019

“You’re real screwed up! Talk to me more about you.”

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We went down to Salem, Oregon this week to install a little recording studio in a homeless youth center! Plus we got taken on a surprise day trip adventure by dear friends. It was a good week. We’ll talk about that, and we’ll also talk through a Listener Topic from Scott S., on how we maintain social grace in awkward social situations. Plus, we learn in real time what a silver jubilee is and isn’t. It’s a process, people.

October 30, 2019October 29, 2019

“Me, and the earlier version of myself, and the albino deer.”

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We had a couple of dear friends come visit us for a couple of days this week. One of them is a therapist, and she’s been gaining expertise in this relatively new technique called CRM – Comprehensive Resource Model. And she did it with both of us one night! It was revelatory and deeply interesting. We go deep on each of our experiences with that in this episode.

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October 23, 2019October 23, 2019

“People in 12-step programs are good at making lists.”

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It’s the one you’ve been waiting for … the Sobriety Tools episode! 🎉 AKA part two of last week’s episode. We spend the entire podcast this week talking through a fantastic Listener Topic from Terry A., about the tools we’ve learned in sobriety that we wish “normies” had at their disposal.

We hope you get something valuable out of this one – and, if anyone needs to talk sobriety stuff, know that you may always feel free to message Jamie. ❤️

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October 16, 2019October 16, 2019

“Being a squeaky wheel, getting grease.”

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Oh my gosh … we’re home! Like HOME home. No more shows, no more travel … done.

But, wow … this last week was full-on. And it was largely metastatic breast cancer-related. So, we spend a lot of time in this episode talking about metastatic breast cancer! It’s important, especially in Breast Cancer Awareness Month, which is largely a bunch of pinkwashing bullshit, but we digress. But we’ll talk about that too!

We also had a wonderful final house concert to put a lovely exclamation point on what was easily our best touring season yet. We’re thrilled about how well it all went. We talk about this a bit as well.

Note 1: if you want to do something helpful and productive for metastatic breast cancer, then give money to MET UP and/or METAvivor.

Note 2: we need new Listener Topics! Post in the group or message one of us, please and thank you.

October 9, 2019October 8, 2019

“A state of mind that you can’t address with caffeination.”

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Some days and weeks are harder than others, you know? I know you know. We had one of those this week. In particular, last night. The kind of hard where you end up subsequently needing to talk about it for a few hours, to figure out what went wrong. And now we’re going to talk through it with you! And that’s the first half of the episode.

And then in the second half of the episode, we talk through a listener topic from Lizzie M., about what we do for self-care and regeneration in this crazy world we’re living in. This topic is apropos for us at the moment, and we’d love to hear your thoughts in the private Facebook group.

October 2, 2019October 2, 2019

“We all freakin belong here.”

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What does it mean to ‘belong’ somewhere? Inspired by some disparate threads converging in our world this week, we take a deep dive into this idea. We also recap the last few shows of our tour … including our 520-mile aborted trip to Canada! Hey, it beats driving in a blizzard. IN SEPTEMBER.

ps we did end up bringing our friend Min balloons and cake. It was a little bit emotional. 🙂

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September 25, 2019September 25, 2019

“A lot of us are in a transitional place.”

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Oh my gosh, you all – WE’RE HOME! We’re not done tour, but we’re sleeping in our own bed tonight. First time in two and a half months. It’s going to be E P I C !

From female empowerment in Idaho to playing a concert for a homeless youth center in Oregon, we covered a lot of ground this week, both literally and emotionally. Lots to process. Fair warning, we’re getting deep in this episode.

We’re raising money to buy a music computer for the homeless youth center. You can contribute here until the end of Friday 9/27: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157342022185631

Learn more about HOST and the life-changing work they’re doing: http://www.northwesthumanservices.org/HOST.html

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September 18, 2019September 18, 2019

“We apologize in advance to our new listeners.”

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We have a short one for you today! We spent most of last week with our brains turned off, vegging out and recharging our batteries. We also had three absolutely wonderful shows. We didn’t draw any deep conclusions from them. Sometimes things just going well is enough.

If you want to know anything about the HGTV show ‘Good Bones,’ though, just ask us, we’re experts now. Although, geez, we’re clearly NOT experts on when the Civil War started and ended. Mortifying. Moving on!

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September 11, 2019September 11, 2019

“Honorary ‘metal’ status is kind of a big deal.”

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Holy smokes – we’ve been married for ten years! Our anniversary was Friday. It feels … oddly adult? We’ve been through a lot in those ten years. Like a lot a lot. We’re both completely different people than we were when we started. When you commit to a life with someone, you don’t freeze them in amber; you join them on their continuing adventure of self-discovery and change. Which means that then you’re dealing with TWO people’s ongoing life changes … yours and your partner’s. It’s a constantly evolving learning process.

With that in mind, we spend the second half of this episode doing a bit of a 10-year Jamie + Shannon marriage recap. We talk about how we met, how Jamie proposed (it was unconventional), highlights, challenges, how we’ve changed, and what we’ve learned.

And of course also we’re still on tour! And tour was awesome this week too. We were guest lecturers at a university! And we had three wonderful house concerts. We’ll tell you all about it, with diversions about equal access to education and the things we use in our lives to check out, among other things. It’s a full episode. Welcome back!

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August 28, 2019August 28, 2019

“Karma isn’t just a good idea; it’s the law.”

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We did a lot of driving across the South this last week, starting in Wilmington, NC and ending up in Texas. We stopped en route in Montgomery, Alabama, to see firsthand how that city is grappling with its history of slave-trading. It went … differently than we’d expected it would. We talk about this, and this week’s (wonderful) concerts, in the first part of the episode.

And then, in the second part, we talk about an email we got from someone who was a guest at a house concert a while back. It crossed some boundaries! And it also reaffirmed for both of us that we’re on the right path, both with what we’re doing and with how we’re doing it. You can’t please everyone … and you shouldn’t try.

You can (and should) listen to the ‘Seeing White’ podcasts at https://www.sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/.

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August 21, 2019August 19, 2019

“The facts & figures episode.”

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Welcome to Episode 40! Forty feels like a lot of something, doesn’t it?

We spent the week bopping up and down the I-95 corridor, from Massachusetts to North Carolina. We had four shows, and each of them was a very cool experience that left us with a lot to think about.

Topics we touch upon in this episode include:

Reasons to believe we can tackle the big problems in the world
The search for greater meaning in one’s life and work
The difference between supporting someone and encouraging them

Bonus content: listen for the torrential mini-storm we drove through while recording this episode!

And also: please post in the secret Facebook group if you’ve ever felt a connection with someone that feels as though you knew them in a previous life. We’d love to hear about it.

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August 14, 2019August 13, 2019

“We are the current stewards of this place.”

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It’s a high-speed tour week wrap-up! We’re in a stretch at the moment where we’re doing 9 shows in 9 days. It’s an intense schedule.

We recorded this episode on some beautiful back roads in New Jersey … we finished editing it while driving over the very ghostly and epic Tappan Zee Bridge … and in between we talked about the people we met this week, the conversations we had, and the things we learned. With a slight detour to talk about the stolen labor this country was founded upon. Because, even at high speed, we are still us.

Greetings from Upstate New York!

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August 7, 2019August 5, 2019

“Wind us up, get us going … you never know what you’re gonna get.”

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We don’t want to freak anyone out, but … we had some time off this week! We spent it in Vermont, with Jamie’s family, doing a whole lot of not much at all. We needed it.

As a result, we only had two shows … so we only talked about tour for 25 or 30 minutes. But then we also accidentally spent 25 or 30 minutes talking about creeping authoritarianism, white supremacy, and positive things we can do about it. Because, you know, 2019. Enjoy!

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July 31, 2019July 31, 2019

“A depth of conviction that can move storm systems.”

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We had a super busy week! We played five shows and drove 1,500 miles – starting out in the Upper Midwest and ending up in Burlington, VT. It was a whirlwind! And it was wonderful. We got to meet a bunch of new people and we got to think about a bunch of interesting things, including:

The hoops artists are expected to jump through
Openheartedness, and embracing people who are different than you
Faith-based rain backup
Unitarian universalist church (who knew!)

We’ll tell you all about it. It’s a fun conversation.

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July 24, 2019July 23, 2019

“Not just to punish, but to heal.”

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If there’s one thing that we’ve learned from our life experience, it’s that art has extraordinary power to redeem and to heal. So … what if we could apply those redemptive and healing powers to our criminal justice system? Well, there’s an organization in Missouri that has been putting that idea into action for the last two decades. They’re called Prison Performing Arts. And one of our house concert hosts from this last week is a member! So we’ve been learning about what they do. It’s an idea that’s radical in its simplicity, and which can serve as a critical bridge to restorative justice.

And then of course we’ll update you on all this week’s tour adventures! We had another wonderful group of shows. We’ll tell you all about it.

You can (and should) learn more about Prison Performing Arts at http://prisonartsstl.org/.

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July 17, 2019July 16, 2019

“The Coffee Shop Encounter.”

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What does empathy look like in practice? And where do our responsibilities lie when confronted with people whose lack of empathy threatens to dehumanize another person? We had both of those questions unexpectedly thrust upon us in real time this week, in a random coffee shop in Gresham, Oregon. We felt like we acquitted ourselves all right, although of course we also both felt afterwards as though there were more eloquent words we could have chosen in the moment, and the encounter left us with a lot on our minds. We talk in the second half of this episode about what happened and what we learned.

And then of course our tour is ongoing! The rest of this episode is devoted to talking about the people we’re meeting and the interactions we’re having. It’s been a wonderful week, and we’ll tell you all about it.

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July 10, 2019July 10, 2019

“We need to have strategies.”

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A conversation at a house concert this week with a dear friend who lives in a polyamorous family gave us occasion to reflect on the enormous privilege that we enjoy – specifically, the privilege of being able to be non-confrontational in situations where others can’t afford to be. We ended up having a fairly eye-opening – and sobering – conversation about this in the second half of this episode.

Fortunately, the first half of the episode is tour recap! And therefore much less heavy. Don’t be scared of the second half, though; it was a really good, and we believe necessary, conversation. Hopefully it will spark some thoughts within you; if it does, please post them in the Misfit Stars private Facebook group!

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July 3, 2019July 2, 2019

“In your garage and going through your tools.”

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It’s Misfit Stars Tour Edition number three! And what a week it’s been. We played 6 shows in 6 days in 6 Northern California cities. Which is a lot. But it was so worthwhile.

A lot of our people in this part of the world seem to be in transition at the moment. It’s given us an opportunity to reflect on what our intersection with their lives at these unique moments means for us. We return to that idea over the course of talking our way through the week, as well as talking about some interactions with some wonderful new people we had the pleasure of encountering. Come along with us on this deep dive!

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June 26, 2019June 25, 2019

“I can be the person in white.”

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What does ‘home’ mean? And what does it mean to make peace with the places you’ve lived, and the seasons of your life that those places helped define? We went back to our old haunts in LA for the first time since moving to the PNW, and it gave us a lot to think about. We go deep on this in the second half of today’s episode.

Plus we talk about this week on tour! We had a great week, met some excellent people, and got to have some really cool discussions. We’ll break it all down for you in the first half of the episode.

* We recorded this episode in the car while driving up I-5 through the Central Valley of California. If you’re listening in headphones, you can hear when Jamie uses the turn signal. 😂

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June 19, 2019June 19, 2019

“I’m a MASTER controller.”

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It’s the very first Misfit Stars Tour Edition podcast! 😮 We recorded this episode on our new headset microphones, sitting behind a VW dealership in Folsom, California, watching cars whiz by on Highway 50. Funny looks from passers-by: 3. Lizards: 1.

We have our first couple of shows under our belt, and they were both great, for very different reasons. We talk about what made each of them part of such a good start to our tour!

And then in the second half, we drill down on a pretty deep conversation that we found ourselves in at the end of the second night – one that touched upon some topics near and dear to our hearts, regarding boundaries and healthy interpersonal interactions, specifically when someone you love is doing something that you can clearly see they should be doing very differently.

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June 12, 2019June 11, 2019

“Screw you, a-hole developers!”

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You know how sometimes you just really have to write a song about climate change? But, like, a really optimistic one? Or is that just Shannon? Anyway, we’re sharing two more new songs from Revolutionary Acts of Optimism in this week’s episode, and one of them is that song! Setting up the song turns into a good long talk about climate justice. More of a rant, maybe? You’ll love it. And that’s not even the best song we’re sharing with you!

Also, our neighborhood had a really good week in court. We’ll tell you all about it.

We’re leaving on tour TODAY … starting next week we’ll be recording our episodes from the road, and bringing you on tour with us! We can’t hardly wait.

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June 5, 2019June 4, 2019

“It’s Christmas in June!”

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It’s all happening! Tour is coming at us like a freight train. We use it as an opportunity to talk about scarcity, process, and balance. We also spend some time touching upon emotional intuition in the recording process, apropos of the wonderful record that Jamie just finished producing. Ever wonder what it’s like to be a married pair of DIY working artists approaching the beginning of an album cycle? Have a listen.

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May 29, 2019May 28, 2019

SONG PREMIERE: “Zero”

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It’s a world-exclusive premiere! We’re using the podcast in the run-up to our album release date (June 14th!) to trickle some songs out to our favorite people (that’s you!). Most of those are tucked into “member exclusive” sections of the episodes, but this one’s public and freely available for everyone to hear. We hope you love it.

Shannon talks about the idea behind the song … I talk briefly about how the music part came about … and we do a little weekly catch-up as well. Short but very sweet!

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May 22, 2019May 25, 2019

“A jarring temporal dislocation.”

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You know how sometimes something happens that makes time collapse on itself? This weekend was that for Jamie. Using his 25th college reunion as a framework, we (re-)connected with his little pack of people from that era of his life – including his first true love, with whom he hadn’t spoken in 18 or so years. Eeeep!

But it went amazingly well. Certainly as well as it could have. And it was revelatory. We spend a good hour talking through what it was like, what happened, and what it’s like now. Fair warning, there’s a story about smoking crack. You know, like you do.

And then in the end bit of the episode, we debut not one but TWO songs from Shannon’s upcoming new record, “Revolutionary Acts of Optimism!” Shannon takes some time to talk about where they came from for her, including a poignant and very relatable story about living in a version of your skin that feels like it doesn’t fit quite right. It’s a super cool episode.

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May 15, 2019May 13, 2019

“This is our week-off podcast. Are we doing this right?”

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If we’d had the time to think ahead, we would have taken a week off the podcast this week, because it’s been an absolutely wild week. We finished Shannon’s new album! “Revolutionary Acts of Optimism” is off to the plant to be made into CDs. Just like that. It sounds fantastic, and we’re thrilled about it.

Given that, this is basically a “week in review” type episode. We still manage to talk for half an hour! It’s just amazing what you can do with enough coffee. And we do talk about housing justice for a minute, because we are still us, after all.

If you’re not yet a subscribing member of the podcast, this would be a good time to change that … because we’re going to be debuting “Revolutionary Acts of Optimism” IN THE PODCAST over the next few weeks! And we’re going to be using that as an excuse to talk in-depth about the album and the songs and where we’re coming from with this new material. You won’t want to miss it. Head over to misfitstars.com and click on that second big pink button!

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May 8, 2019May 7, 2019

“A love song to possibility.”

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Welcome to our Silver Jubilee podcast episode! It’s been a month since last week. We’ll tell you all about it. With extra emphasis on intentionality, and on letting your heart lead the way in your deliberative process.

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May 1, 2019May 1, 2019

“Can I share the peeing story?”

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Yesterday was the 13th anniversary of the day that we met! So we used this episode as an opportunity to take a little trip down memory lane, telling the story of our meeting and the time that led up to it from alternating his-n-hers perspectives. Fair warning: there’s lots of giggling.

This is the last day to support our album fundraiser! It’s at shannoncurtis.net. Thank you. ❤️

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April 24, 2019April 23, 2019

“It starts with the idea that it’s possible.”

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Moving to a new place is an opportunity to redefine your relationship with what it is to live in a community. An opportunity that we’ve accepted wholeheartedly! Aided by the a-hole developers who are trying to build an unwanted storage facility in our neighborhood. There’s nothing like banding together to fight for a common cause to foster unity.

Misfit Star Katie R. posed an interesting Listener Topic to us last month that we’ve been holding on to until today: what have we learned, practically and about ourselves, since becoming homeowners? We realized that our answers to this question are very different now than they would have been even three months ago, and that we credit a lot of that to the sense of community we’ve found here. Our discussion starts there, and evolves into an impassioned rant about housing justice. Because when you break it apart, they’re inextricably intertwined topics.

Please support our album fundraiser! It’s at shannoncurtis.net. Thank you. ❤️

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April 17, 2019April 17, 2019

“All the monsters under the bed.”

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Putting yourself out there is vulnerable and scary. And … guess what time of year it is for us! New-single-and-album-fundraiser-time is a fraught time at best. And when things don’t go quite as expected, as happened this week, it can throw us for a serious loop.

This paired excellently with a Listener Topic from Terry B., about helpful versus hurtful inner dialog. Spoiler alert: it all worked out better than we could have possibly imagined. And there’s a valuable lesson in there.

The link to the Change.org petition about the stupid storage facility that they’re trying to build in our neighborhood is here: https://www.change.org/p/city-of-tacoma-who-sues-a-neighborhood-and-a-church-to-build-a-storage-facility-sign-to-voice-concern. Please sign it!

And please support our album fundraiser! It’s at shannoncurtis.net. Thank you. ❤️

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April 10, 2019April 9, 2019

“The world was never changed by people sitting on their couch.”

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It’s Album Fundraiser Time around here! What this means, in practical terms, is that for the next three weeks the podcast episodes are going to be shorter … because we’re also going to be doing Facebook Live broadcasts. Every. single. night! If you want in on the fun, those will be at facebook.com/shannonkcurtis – usually around 7pm west coast time.

Album Fundraiser Time always coincides around here with an album theme reveal and a first single. This year the album theme (and title!) is “Revolutionary Acts of Optimism,” and we spend the first part of the podcast talking about what that means to us.

We posted the album artwork and title in our Misfit Stars private Facebook group last weekend, which prompted Scott S. to ask, “What is an *act* of optimism – as opposed to an attitude?” Great question! We talk through our ideas about this in the second half of the episode.

Oh! And please support our album fundraiser. It’s at shannoncurtis.net. Thank you. ❤️

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April 3, 2019April 2, 2019

“Straight into the sun for 3,000 miles.” (and new single premiere!)

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So, hypothetically, if you had a new song you wanted to debut, and a new podcast, where would you debut the song? Yeah, us too! It’s called “Glorious,” and it’s out worldwide on Friday … but we wanted you to hear it first. We hope you love it.

And then in the second half of the episode, do you know what we do? We get into some politics! But don’t worry, it’s fine. You know us well enough to know that we can be trusted to be sensitive. Katie R. was curious to know what we’re looking for in our 2020 candidate … and we definitely have some thoughts.

Bonus content: see if you can hear when the neighbor’s gardeners arrive. It’s springtime in Tacoma, baby!

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March 27, 2019March 25, 2019

“The fruits of our labor.”

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We did a couple of seemingly unrelated things this week – having coffee with a parent-age friend, and seeing Michelle Obama speak. But they ended up feeling oddly connected, for reasons having to do with the essential nature of optimism, from an intergenerational perspective. In the first half of the episode, we explore what that connection felt like for us.

And then, in the second half of the episode … we got an intriguing listener topic from Kitty S., about our relationships with our fathers. So we talk about that!

Bonus game: see if you can hear the moment when the mail comes through our mail slot. You know we record this in our living room, right?

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March 20, 2019

“You first; you’re more mad.”

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Some a-hole out-of-town developers are trying to screw with our little neighborhood! And the neighborhood isn’t taking it lying down. We rant about this for the first part of this episode.

And then in the second half, we talk through a listener topic from Elaine N., on the ins and outs of being a married couple who work together. Elaine asked us to talk about the things about each other that drive us insane, and we oblige. Good fun.

Bonus content: Shannon makes a spontaneous run at the Guinness world record for longest utterance of the word “forever.”

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March 13, 2019March 11, 2019

“Like … is she a witch?”

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Happy Women’s History Month! We celebrate by spending this entire episode talking about women who have made a personal impact in each of our lives. Come for the heartwarming discussion … stay for the surprise ending. BONUS CONTENT: Shannon cries. Awww. ❤️

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March 6, 2019

“Our backpack of uncertainty.”

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You know how we talk with each other on this podcast every week? Well, sometimes we get asked to speak, outside of our living room, to people other than one another! How exciting. Last week we were on a panel in Seattle, on finding work that matters. It was a fun discussion, and we thought we’d use it as a jumping-off point this week to take a bit of a look back at where we came from, and at how we evolved into doing the work that we’re doing now.

And then: what are your dirty words? No, not THOSE dirty words … the words that you’re trying to get out of your vocabulary. We talk about ours in the second half of the episode. Thanks Scott S. for the good listener topic!

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February 27, 2019February 27, 2019

“It’s pronounced ‘midwifery.'”

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It’s a Listener Topic double-header! After the last couple of weeks’ Very Serious Episodes, we went lighthearted with this one. But what would you expect from a couple of people who just learned that one of their songs was played at a gas station in Lithuania. Nothing but good times around here this week.

In the first half, at the encouragement of Terry A., we interview one another about our weird jobs (songwriter and record producer, respectively). And then in the second half we talk through a topic from Julie A., on how we see the pros and cons of technology in our lives. Fun conversation!

Also, here’s the link to the fundraiser for our photographer friend Jonathan ❤️ https://www.gofundme.com/6vs4cu0

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February 20, 2019February 20, 2019

“Uncomfortable and taboo are not synonyms.”

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We talked about intra-family political differences last week – eep! – and you know what? It worked out just fine. So this week – screw it, it’s Black History Month – we’re talking about white privilege and exploring our (unwitting) complicity in racist systems! Because, you know, life is short. So let’s just go there.

We feel guardedly optimistic that we handled this subject with grace and tact; hopefully you’ll feel that that’s the case, too. Please share your thoughts in the private Facebook group!

And ps: the Peggy McIntosh essay that we used as a foundation for this week’s episode is here:

https://www.racialequitytools.org/resourcefiles/mcintosh.pdf

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February 13, 2019February 12, 2019

“Is today the day the vultures come?”

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So we managed to do this podcast for twelve entire episodes without getting into politics! But then we hit Episode 13. 😂 Don’t worry, though, it’s not bad. In fact we think it’s really good! Apropos of our family visit in Vermont, Jamie unpacks his evolving and complicated feelings toward his parents, whom he loves very much, but from whom he has realized he’s on the opposite side of a vast political divide over this last couple of years. We explore how and why that situation has recently improved, in the hope that it might help someone out there who’s been experiencing the same thing with their family or loved ones. It was a great discussion – a very vulnerable discussion to have in front of microphones – and we hope it holds some value for you.

And then in the second part of the episode, we talk through a listener topic from Jean W. When is it okay to be selfish? Spoiler alert: Shannon has some cool and somewhat avant-garde thoughts about this.

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February 6, 2019January 28, 2019

“Maybe that’s why they do twelve eggs. One egg per month!”

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It’s a Listener Topic Bonanza! We have been quietly hoarding extra Listener Topics for the last couple of months … and today we’ve devoted the whole episode to tackling a bunch of them. Topics covered include:

– Favorite moments at concerts that shaped who we are as musicians
– Fears we’ve overcome over the last couple of years
– All-time favorite songs

… and a whole bunch more. There’s some spontaneous singing … there are some personal moments … and there’s a lot of cracking up. And! We have made a Spotify playlist, at misfitstars.com/episode-12-listen-along, so that you can listen along as we stroll down our musical memory lane! HOW FUN.

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January 30, 2019January 29, 2019

“It’s like the Waze app … for life.”

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“Just do the next right thing.” We hear this sometimes, as a sort of vague direction for how to decide what path to take next in our lives … but what the heck does it actually mean? We spend some time trying to figure out precisely where the rubber meets the road for us in the ways that we translate our values into action. (Thanks to Scott S. for the topic suggestion!)

And then in the second part of the episode, we address a Listener Topic from Mystery Star “T”: what’s it like to be in a relationship where one person is sober and one person is a “normie?” Spoiler alert … she’s not exactly a normie.

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January 23, 2019

“Are any of us men yet?”

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It’s been a big week for toxic masculinity! We have personal experience with this, from both the inside and the outside of it, and that’s what we talk about for the entirety of this episode. Jamie talks about his experiences growing up as a boy, how they informed the young man he became, and how that young man evolved into the person he is now; Shannon talks about her experience as a woman dealing with the various ways men act toward women – for better and for worse.

We’d LOVE to hear about your experiences with this. Please head over and voice your thoughts in our private Facebook group! If you’re not yet a member, see below to sign up.

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January 16, 2019January 15, 2019

“… it’s like iocaine powder!”

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Mental roadblocks! We all get them. But why? Where do they come from? And how can we get rid of them? We’re no stranger to these in our lives, and we spend the first half of this episode unpacking some of our thoughts around that.

And then our listener topic this week, from Libby L., is pet peeves. The fun thing about pet peeves is that there’s no way not to sound like a petty a-hole when you try to explain them to other people, and we prove in the second half of this episode that we’re no exception to that rule. Don’t judge!! You do it too.

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January 9, 2019January 8, 2019

“Orange and Pink Flowers”

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Things get personal in this one. We had a pretty heavy experience this week, in which we encountered a family member with whom we have an unresolved and painful relationship. We thought we’d use it as an opportunity to explore some ideas around how to walk into potentially uncomfortable or distressing situations with other humans, with peace and confidence. Easier said than done, sometimes – but we found some positive and helpful takeaways, and we hope you might find something resonant in them.

And then in the second half of the episode we talk through a listener topic from Jeff H., on how to keep that January 1 enthusiasm, momentum, and optimism lasting all year. Jamie has a bunch of strategies for setting realistic goals and keeping yourself on a healthy track toward their accomplishment – and Shannon has a different take entirely!

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January 2, 2019

“We’ve solved world peace! Done.”

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We thought we’d start things off easy in the new year. So, in the first half of this episode, we talk about how to make peace with past versions of yourself. No big deal!

And then in the second half of the episode, we tackle a closely-related listener topic from Julie A., regarding overcoming your past mistakes and turning difficult times into learning opportunities.

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December 26, 2018December 24, 2018

“Let’s Build a Time Machine”

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In which we take a look back at 2018! Our favorite tour moments … the new music we obsessed over … our best new experiences … our highest and lowest personal moments … we break down our year and then we put it all back together.

We experimented with a new format in this episode … we agreed upon questions prior to the show, and we each thought of our answers in private, and then we interviewed one other and surprised each other with our responses. It came out excellently. Our favorite episode yet!

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December 19, 2018

“Just Outside the Comfort Zone”

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Apropos of an email exchange we had this week, we unwrap some of the layers of assumed identity and protective persona that we humans armor ourselves with as we navigate the world.

And then in the second half of the episode we share our thoughts on an unintentionally seasonal listener topic from Lee Ann W., about how people with differing views can treat one other with respect.

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December 12, 2018

“Christmas Casino Buffet”

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The season for holiday stress is upon us! We talk about pressure, anxiety, expectations, letting go of old rituals, and what reimagining tradition can look like in this fraught time of the year.

And then the second half of this episode is excellent! Inspired by a listener question from Kim L., we talk about how to manage the ups and downs of working together as creatives. It turns out that this basically means that we talk about how to interact with other humans in healthier and more intentional ways — including the humans we happen to be partnered with.

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December 5, 2018

“Parentheses!”

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Inspired by an interview we did last week, we elaborate on the question, “What is success?” Turns out it’s a pretty deep question, with ramifications for one’s self-worth, sense of identity, and general happiness. So we get deep with it.

And then in the second half of the episode we explore a listener topic from Jean W., about the preconditions for creativity.

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November 28, 2018

“Five THOUSAND Cookies”

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It’s been quite a week since Episode 1! Shannon’s beloved grandma Vi passed away, after a long reign as Best Grandma Ever. We share some favorite memories, and we talk about some lessons we learned from the way she lived and the way she transitioned into the end of her life.

And then in the second half of the episode, we delve into a Listener Topic about the idea of making mistakes, in art and in life, and why that might actually be a good thing.

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November 21, 2018November 28, 2018

“Origin Story”

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It’s Episode 1! Yes; we have started a podcast. Because why not try something else that’s new and scary and unknown, in a year that’s been characterized by doing new / scary / unknown things? We talk about the year of transition and risk-taking that we’ve had, how the launch of Misfit Stars fits into all of that, and the hopes we have for going deeper with our community through these interactive conversations.

And what exactly is “Misfit Stars,” anyway? We talk about the origin of the podcast’s name, and how each of us has felt like a misfit — and also like a star! — in our lives. Juicy stories from the wayback machine included.

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