“Pretend you’re a firefighter, people … and it’s your house that’s on fire.”

We thought we’d wait to record this week’s podcast till we’d watched the first presidential debate. Which was kind of a good idea, only because talking about anything else on this particular Wednesday would have been irrelevant. But, holy cow – neither of us was prepared for what a viscerally traumatic experience it was! We talk about that – and nothing else – for this hour. We apologize in advance.

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