“The fruits of our labor.”

We did a couple of seemingly unrelated things this week – having coffee with a parent-age friend, and seeing Michelle Obama speak. But they ended up feeling oddly connected, for reasons having to do with the essential nature of optimism, from an intergenerational perspective. In the first half of the episode, we explore what that connection felt like for us.
And then, in the second half of the episode … we got an intriguing listener topic from Kitty S., about our relationships with our fathers. So we talk about that! 
Bonus game: see if you can hear the moment when the mail comes through our mail slot. You know we record this in our living room, right?

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